Tuesday, September 4, 2007

Film Script's Top 7 - Best Movie Franchises


I probably should have taken the initiative and posted this as soon as The Bourne Ultimatum and Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix were still fresh in theaters, but considering we're exactly at the border between summer and fall movie season - as evidenced by this past week's releases (Halloween, Death Sentence, Balls of Fury) and the ones coming in the next couple weeks (3:10 to Yuma, The Brave One, Eastern Promises, In the Valley of Elah) - I still felt that the topic deserves to be brought up... besides, who doesn't love a good list?

Also, as we continue with "The Film Script" I hope to settle into a groove with the posts much in the way that at the beginning of each month I've been posting a "Recent Watches" section and a "Month of Movies" topic. I'd like to get at least one "Top 7" list in per month as well. They're usually a topic that we get more posts and more interest in anyway.

Oh, and one last thing that I feel like addressing. The welcoming of a new contributor, Rebecca, to the site. You may or may not have noticed the addition to the list of "Contributors" on the site, but regardless, Rebecca and I are planning a new column (maybe weekly, maybe semi-weekly, we'll work that out) giving sort of a His-Hers take on contemporary and classic films. I believe the first film we've decided on is Away From Her. If anyone else has seen it, everyone is welcome to join in the debate in the comments section as usual. It's just a spin on the topic posting that we wanted to try out, with each of us giving our own take on the film (we'll each write our reactions to the film without discussing it with the other) and then with a kind of 'counterpoint' section where we respond to the other person's take. Should be interesting, I'm definitely looking forward to trying that out.

But now, the list:

7. Star Wars
I make it no secret that I was not a Star Wars geek growing up. I only recently (the past 3-4 years) caught up with the entire series. And while I love a few of the films, by taking in all 6 within a short amount of time, The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones really cast a shadow on the series. To view it in that context, only half the films are really all that good. However, the two best (obviously still the first two) are truly great and classic films. For them alone, Star Wars deserves to be on any ‘Best Franchise’ List - and probably with higher placement than I’m giving it.

6. Indiana Jones
I don’t think either sequel ever approaches the level of Raiders, but throughout, the Indiana Jones series remains one of the most purely entertaining film franchises of all-time. Harrison Ford was perfect for the role (we’ll find out next year whether a 60-year-old Ford still is) but this is the type of grand spectacle entertainment that works so well with talent as big as Spielberg behind it to shape it into something special. I don’t know whether Raiders is enhanced with the addition of Temple of Doom or The Last Crusade (the markings of a truly great sequel/series). But it’s fun, it’s charming, it’s entertaining and engrossing. It’s thrilling. It’s 6th place all-time.

5. The Bourne Identity
The Bourne films started out as a typical – albeit strong – action series, but somewhere around the time Marie is sniper-rifled in The Bourne Supremacy they changed over into explorations of a past filled with regret, of revenge and self-exploration. They became deeper, more fierce, and more meaningful as they went along… all while hiding in plain sight as ‘blockbuster’ films being consumed by a mass audience. Plus, check out the cast lists… it’s like a running tally of top notch actors and actresses all doing great work.

4. The Terminator
When I was ten years old, if you had told me I could only see one movie for the rest of my life… I think I could have been happy with T2. In fact, for about two years I probably treated it as the only film on earth when I watched and rewatched and rewatched the thing seriously at least 100 times. To this day it is – by far – the film I’ve seen the most number of times. The Terminator itself is a classic that has grown on me even more with age (I guess the gritty reality of the original wasn’t as appealing as the stylized spectacle of the second when I was younger). Then Jonathan Mostow comes along and delivers the serviceable, unspectacular-but-not-disappointing-either T3. To me, it’s a solid, rounded trilogy with some amazing highs and very rare lows. I’m worried about T4, but to this point… easily one of the best franchises of all-time.

3. The Godfather
Two of the best films ever made. The only reason it’s listed at #3 is because of one average film that drags it down. Part II was (and probably still is) the best excuse for ever making a sequel. The first two films are *always* considered for a list of the top films of all-time and include some of the top performances of all-time. When you think of the actor’s from those two films, these are the films that define them. These are the upper echelon of their filmographies and upper echelon of filmmaking. But that’s just it, the third never is… and I’m a stickler for consistency. And while Part III is not a bad film (hell, it managed a Best Picture nom of its own), it’s so starkly below the level of the first two that it unfairly drags down the series from it’s rightful #1 position.

2. The Lord of the Rings
It almost feels like a cheat to put it here because, really, what is The Lord of the Rings but one 9-hour movie (maybe this feeling will change if they ever get around to making The Hobbit like they’ve long planned to)? The films are obviously great and each film is on the same level as the one before or after it, but it was filmed all together like one movie with one cast and there was no time between films where they had to regroup any of the actors or deal with any criticisms or hire writers to craft another story. It was one story, exceptionally told. But by my own definition, three films = placement on the list and with the caliber of all three, it deserves this #2 slot. After all, it’s some of the best filmmaking of the past decade.

1. The Man With No Name
I love this series. As soon as Clint Eastwood showed up in this Sergio Leone trilogy, his look became iconic. The poncho, the thin cigar, the hat. He drifts from movie to movie without any real connection between them… besides the poncho, the thin cigar and the hat. And the feel, courtesy of Sergio Leone’s direction and Ennio Morricone’s score. It’s a remarkable series, unlike any other I’ve ever seen. The distinctiveness of a Sergio Leone western is uniquely unusual and wonderful. It’s a crime he was only able to complete a handful of movies in his lifetime. Luckily – even in his brief career – he treated us to the best franchise in history.

Runners-Up include: Rocky, Batman, James Bond, Harry Potter, Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Alien, Back to the Future, Spider-Man, Superman, Dirty Harry, Predator, American Pie, Scream, etc.

(find a list of other franchises at http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/franchises.php)

12 comments:

pengin said...

Before I go about constructing my post, I wanted to clarify what we are considering a franchise. Is it simply a film and its sequel, or is a trilogy the minimum? I would say trilogy, mostly to help shorten the already long list we have to think through, but I'll go with whatever the popular consensus is.

Brian Mulligan said...

Damn, I definitely intended to cover this in my post and just skipped it. Yes, I'd say three films is the minimum amount that I consider a franchise (2 films with a prospective 3rd in the future doesn't count until that third film is released either).

Other than that, as long as it's three in a series, there are no other stipulations. Doesn't have to be a blockbuster (that's another list altogether), just a series.

Looking forward to everyone's list.

Rebecca said...

Thanks for the introduction Brian! I hope we can make a decent go of the "Him & Her" column. I look forward to hearing some feedback about it too.

chachiincharge said...

First of all welcome Rebecca. It will be nice to get another female perspective about films. On second thought, I'm assuming your a female. I mean you could simply like the name for your posts and are just trying to trick us with these Him/Her posts. Maybe your a 5o yr old trucker who chews tobacco, shaves with a Bowie knife and likes beating up puppies. So until I'm proven otherwise I will assume this. In all honesty, thanks for joining.

Now to the topic at hand. I have a feeling that our posts will be very similar. So I decided to go the more unorthodox route. My actual faves would probably include:

1. Lord of the Rings
2. Star Wars
3. Terminator
4. Die Hard
5. Dollars Trilogy
6. Godfather
7. Harry Potter

...at least more or less. My number one on this upcoming list would certainly crack my Top 7 of all time, but both Mulligan and the link he provided left it off as one of the best franchises. BLASPHEMY!!! I mean you had Scream as an honorable mention, and this series kicks its ass. I can at least count on pengin agreeing with me.

So without further ado, the lesser, but nonetheless influential Top 7 Movie Franchises.

7. Godzilla (aka Gojira)- say what you will in terms of production value, acting, plot, etc. It is because of Gojira that we haveas many franchises as we do. Than again Gojira owes a lot to Kong, but that franchise down right sucked compared to Gojira. They still make Godzilla movies to this day. They stick with the same formula of a man in a suit wrecking what is essentially a toy playset. As a kid, I thought Godzilla was the shit. I went as him for Halloween, bought the toys, watched the shitty cartoon with a baby Godzilla named Godzooky. And all of this mayhem is simply a product of man's fear of the nuclear age. A monster movie with a brain? Don't see them much anymore...except for the recent Host, which isn't as much fun as a good old fashioned Godzilla flick.

6. Riddick- kind of a cheat since there are only two flicks, but it did spawn an anime and a video game that more or less told different stories than the movies covered. The only role Vin Diesel was born to play. I remember reading an "A" graded review for Pitch Black in EW, and sought that film out. How glad I was? Riddick was such a cool character. The biggest badass in space. A killer with bleached eyes that you grew to admire. The much maligned sequel I thought was incredible if simply for the visuals. But I also thought it set the foundation well for a really smart action trilogy with a great mythology behind it. Unfortunately that won't come to fruition, but I really dug the ending to the sequel enough to where I don't mind it not coming back. But here's hoping I get to see Diesel don his shades again.

5. Evil Dead- a very unique trilogy about Ash and his adventures. The first film is one of the great indie flicks that showed great promise from future A list director Sam Raimi. The sequel told basically the same story but in a much different manner. Raimi's love for the three Stooges is quite apparent in Evil Dead 2 as Ash fights his own disembodied hand and creates the greatest weapon appendage ever. Army of Darkness tried to convey the same fun that many Ray Harryhausen flicks like Clash of the Titans, Sinbad and Jason and the Argonauts did, but to lesser results, but still Bruce "The Chin" Campbell is one of my heroes and is always one of the most fascinating and funny actors to watch. Read his books "If Chins Could Kill" and "Make Love: The Bruce Campbell way." They are hysterical.

4. Monty Python- A massive hit in Britain with the sketch show, The Flying Circus, they than delved into movies. First up was the Life of Brian, a hysterical account of Jesus from the eyes of Brian whom is always five minuted behind Jesus. A pitch perfect ending. Up next for them was a retelling of King Arthur. Holy Grail consistently makes the list of funniest films of all time, and also one of the most quotable. They even made a Tony winning play out of it. I didn't care for most of Meaning of Live, but the first two are classics that introduced me to one of my favorite kinds of humor...British.
"What is your favorite color?"
"Blue..No yellow...Aaaagggghhhhh"

3. Pink Panther- I refuse to include Steve Martin's abhorrent remake in this, otherwise it would be much lower. Inspector Clouseau is and will always be Peter Sellers. Shot in the Dark is still one of the funniest films ever. Even when the plots weren't good, Sellers was always good for a laugh especially when his assistant Cato is with him. Some of the funniest scenes ever with Blake Edwards at the helm. Henry Mancini's score is so catchy that those who haven't seen the films know the song. It also spawned the ever famous Pink Panther cartoon character who has since been relegated to ceiling insulation commercials.

2. Frankenstein- of all the Universal horror flicks of the 20s and 30s, only one has a sequel to match it. Bride of Frankenstein may well be the best horror sequel ever. Frankenstein himself is a much more easily sympathetic villain than Dracula, Wolf Man, Creature from Black Lagoon, etc. . A misunderstood monster with unnatural urges and an aggressive nature that can't be tamed except with love. A wonderfully acted portrait from Boris Karloff with some amazing set pieces and a truly original plot. And it was the subject of the one of the great comedies in Mel Brook's Young Frankenstein. If Boris couldn't play him, I'm glad it was Peter Boyle. RIP

1.Romero's Dead Quadrilogy- easily in my Top 7 of all time and Mulligan's link didn't even mention any of Romero's amazing films. Night of the Living Dead is one of the quintessential indie flicks. A film so cheap yet set the standard for all horror films from hence forth. It even had the balls to explore race before Civil Rights. Dawn of the Dead is the smartest horror film ever. A satire about consumerism and how we all have a little zombie in us. Day of the Dead explored darker and much more polarizing territory as we learn about the zombie's ability to learn and be "human." In the end, perhaps mankind is it's own worst enemy and not the zombies themselves. Land of the Dead finally brings us to a world where humans are no longer the dominant species. A commentary on class and the Iraq War, Romero is always injecting relevance into a genre in need of it. Easily the smartest horror series ever from the king himself. Let us not forget the humorous parody Return of the Living Dead and the stupid remake of Night directed by Tom Savini who created the revolutionary makeup for Romero.

Fin

PS Still haven't gotten a copy of Bugsy so by all means post on it, but I don't know when I will snag one. Can't wait to talk about Croupier though.

chachiincharge said...

Forgot to mention some honorable mentions that I think will prevent pengin from coming up with anything that hasn't already been said. So good hunting my friend. HaHa

-XMen, Saw (a good trilogy, will probably be a bad quadrilogy), Planet of the Apes, Revenge of the Nerds, Ninja Turtles (almost made my list), Austin Powers, Mad Max (if Thunderdome didn't suck so much), Jaws (one masterpiece, one fun flick, two atrocious sequels), El Mariachi, Vengence Trilogy (if I had seen Lady Vengeance it might have made my list) and finally two series that are so obvious that I didn't put them on...Mighty Ducks and 3 Ninjas.

Oh and...Best of the Best. A franchise I loved as a kid. Eric Roberts is the shit.

Brian Mulligan said...

Well, I feel small. It may not even have made it anyway, but the main reason I left Romero's franchise off my list is...

I haven't seen them. Only Land of the Dead I've seen. You actually touched upon two of the biggest, gaping holes in my film-watching history... horror movies (zombies specifically) and monster movies (no Godzilla, Frankenstein, or Dracula, films either).

A few of the other franchises you mentioned I haven't watched the entire series of films and thus ruled out (I still felt this was pretty representative of what my list would look like had I seen them though, because if I love one I'll usually go search out the rest of the series.) That ruled out Monty Python (only seen Holy Grail which I liked but didn't love) and Evil Dead (Army of Darkness, same feelings).

Then, there's Riddick. Pitch Black was okay, but Chronicles was garbage. I hated pretty much every last thing about that movie and it deserves no mention of anywhere near a Top 7 list. If we were going Worst Franchises, it'd be right up there with Saw and the probably unavoidable Night at the Museum trilogy (yes, they're already doing #2, ugh, I hate this country sometimes).

Ditto Steve Martin's SECOND Pink Panther sequel). Hell, while we're at it we should throw Cheaper by the Dozen in there. Martin is just a sequel whore nowadays the likes of which only Eddie Murphy could be proud of. Luckily they seem to be stopping with two, but still, awful stuff.

I'll also save myself the embarrassment of commenting on your runners-up list (more incomplete franchises for me).

Besides that, I will say Best of the Best was the shit. I refuse to go back and rewatch it to clarify that statement either.

pengin said...

God I hate you Chachi. You stole all of my good below-the-radar choices. Well...almost all....my list will still kick your's ass. Hopefully I'll have had enough time to think of new ones, and have my post by tomorrow...til then...no one else is allowed to add anything to this post.

chachiincharge said...

I'm completely oblivious as to why so many people disliked Riddick. I really dug it a lot. I saw it three times, bought the DVD, and have enjoyed both the anime and the game. I just don't know. I thought it was so gorgeous and was a whole lot of fun. I mean he killed a guy with a tea cup. I just about bought replica shades of his online.

As for Saw, I think it is the only horror franchise of recent years that actually manges to put some thought into their script. Obviously it is always about what new contraptions of torture we will see, but they always throw in a really good twist in my opinion. Plus Jigsaw is a unique villain who believes his actions make his victims better people. I don't have much hope for it continuing, but I hope to like since I think it is more original than the other teen horror franchises out there. You gotta admit it is a hell of a lot better than The Ring and especially The Grudge. But I don't fault anyone for not liking it. I do though.

I too have not seen all the films in these franchises. There are so many Godzillas I don't even know. I haven't see the last two Panther flicks yet, and I never saw Son of Frankenstein. Yet I do know the significant these franchises brought to cinema, and for that I wanted to acknowledge them.

Chan Wook Park's Vengeance Trilogy seemed like a unique one to mention. Wasn't sure if it would count, since it is all about the theme continuing and not the characters themselves. I mean if theme constitute a franchise, you could probably also include Alejandro González Iñárritu's Trilogy.

Finally, Army of Darkness is the weakest of the Evil Dead trilogy. You should certainly check them out sometime. And how the hell did you only like Holy Grail. That film probably made me the absurdist I am today. It also has one of the best DVDs ever including a recreation of "Knights of the Round Table" in Legos.

chachiincharge said...

I was sleeping and I suddenly realized a huge franchise oversight on my part, but I imagine it is one of pengin's dark horse cards up his sleeve. He claims there are two big franchises left we have not mentioned. Still don't know what one of them is, but if I guessed right, this one would have made my list only behind Romero. Hell it might have beat it out.

But I don't want to steal pengin's thunder once again. I had the opportunity already of stealing Frankenstein from him, which isn't really fair because he is the one always blabbering about how great that franchise is. Dammit I wish I remembered this one before hand. Even Mulligan will probably say "How did you forget it?"

pengin said...

Yay! Chachi didn't steal anymore good ones from me overnight. Here it goes:

7. Monty Python

Chachi already said how awesome these flicks are. Myself and british comedy get along very well, and I have this series to thank for that. I know they aren't everyone's cup of tea, but these are a big part of where my sense of humor came from.

6. Frankenstein

I hate you so much for stealing this. Monster flicks are the foundation of my love for film, and the cornerstone to that love was and will forever be Frankenstein. I can't even put into words how much I love this film, and even Bride of Frankenstein. (Haven't seen Son of Frankenstein). Not only the best of the Universal monster flicks, this is one of the best from the early days of films.

5. Abbott and Costello

One of my trump cards come into play. I was lucky enough to grow up with my father, who loved monster flicks, Mel Brooks, and Abbott & Costello. These two are yet another reason I have the sense of humor I have today. I haven't seen all of their films, but enough to know that they were (and I would argue still are) the greatest comedic duo to ever grace film with their presence. Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein is a classical almost without equal.

4. Kevin Smith's Jersey Series

HAHAHAHAHA! I beat you to it douchebag. How the hell could you forget this? 6 films featuring the same places and characters anchored by Smith's dialogue and humor. Rather devisive amongst film fans, but this is a series I've grown up loving. It speaks to the geek in me. Vulgar, childish at times, but with an undeniable heart. Only 23 days until I get to meet this guy....

3. Star Wars

The first film I watched was Return of the Jedi. I was 3. I was hooked. Despite the weakness of the first two prequels, it's worth sitting through them just to get to Revenge of the Sith. And that's not even going into the originals. Again, my love of film can be traced back to these flicks.

2. Lord of the Rings

I think everone else has said it perfectly. These films are simply amazing. I've been reading and rereading the books since I was 9-10, and I think the films might actually be better. True classics. Hopefully New Line and Bob Shaye will pull their heads out of their asses and make up with Peter Jackson so we can get a Hobbit flick that rocks just as hard.

1. The Godfather

Alright, here comes my stand. I think the third film is a damn good flick that doesn't get the recognition it deserves. It's the weakest link, but looked at the other two links. Seriously, how the hell could it have lived up to the expectations? Despite Sophia's atrocious acting, this is the best series ever. More complex yet straightforward than anything else on our lists. More depressing yet beautiful than almost any other film. Great performances. Great writing. Great directing. How much more could you ever ask for?

chachiincharge said...

Yah that was the biggin I missed. I did think about it this morning though. And to be fair, the ViewAskewniverse isn't the most obvious franchise, but God knows it would have made my list. I thought about Tarantino and seeing if somehow he had made a franchise, and I also recalled Scorsese's films too just to be sure. How I forgot to look over one of my favorite writer's career is beyond me. Thankfully pengin didn't forget. Good on you sir. Well played.

Now for some films that would be up consideration if only they made a third film.
-Toy Story (could very well be Tops if 3 is solid)
-Ghostbusters (no doubt the second is weaker, but you gotta love them)
-National Lampoons Vacation(yes their are technically four films, but who counts European and Vegas Vacation)
-Before Sunrise/Sunset (I hear rumor of a trilogy)
-Hustler/Color of Money (Newman is fantastic as Eddie Felson and can watch him play it again)
-Bill and Ted (I LOVE THESE GUYS)

and the two most obvious choices, yet we may never finish their epic tales...Breakin and Weekend at Bernies.

Brian Mulligan said...

A well rounded list from pengin as well, most of which I agree with and some of which I have not seen (Abbott & Costello). I'm not as high on Kevin Smith's series as the two of you guys, but I do appreciate the highs of it. And Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and The Godfather are rightfully represented on each list.

Nicely done.

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